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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:55 pm    Post subject: My PKD Refurb (formerly Blaster original color scheme?) Reply with quote

Greetings, all. I've been a member at the RPF for a while and a huge fan of BR since its original theatrical release. (I went to Germany in 1982 and saw the German-dubbed international version and thought I was the coolest guy in the world.)

I'd never been a big prop collector but I'd always wanted a BR blaster, so on a whim I put a low bid on a built XEDCX PKD-1 version (sorry if I've committed a faux pas here; I've only recently started learning the version history) that needed some work, and I won. I just started refinishing the grips and stripping the grip frame, which looks like it was worked over by someone's kid brother.

I like the way it was finished (all gunmetal except for silver grip frame, butt plate, triggers and guard) but I've been considering refinishing it as a sort of "factory new" model, based on the hero version. Which brings me, finally, to my question (no luck on a forum search, so forgive me if this has been covered extensively):

Was the original butt plate all black? It seems reasonable to assume that because the grip frame on the hero is black, and the lower portions are rubbed off to reveal bare metal, and the bottom of the butt plate appears to have been black at one point, that the whole lower portion was once black, and the finish was removed by excessive polishing, whether accidentally during production or on purpose before shooting.

Obviously I'm the final arbiter of what to do with my gun, but I wanted to get your thoughts. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Combaticus! Right place to be (imho) ...now as for the blaster I'm still learning about all the details, but as you'll see (and read) there are plenty of specialists here that'll help you with that question.
It seems to me that the bottom of the but was, at one time, black but with the wear and tear became what it is today (see pics of the real prop from Phase Pistol)...in the end, it's what you like that counts and since there's a lot of versions out there and all of them fit into that BR world, yours will be a nice addition to an already large amount of variations...good luck.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Combaticus.

For the first part of your question, EDC stands for Earth Defence Corps and refers to Charles Wallace who bought the molds to Rick Ross's PKD-2 model and made them for a brief time, but unfortunately he continued to sell them without making them Shocked. So yes it is kind of faux pas to call any of the guns an EDC version.

About the hero gun's butt plate, it is of the belief of a few of us that the plate was always silver, but had the bottom painted to get rid of glare of the studio lights off the flat shiney surface. There is no evidence of any black paint on the rest of the butt plate, even in the crevices that I can see.

I would love to see anything you have of your version, so please post pictures, and any other info you have. It is all part of the history of these replicas.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andy wrote:
For the first part of your question, EDC stands for Earth Defence Corps and refers to Charles Wallace who bought the molds to Rick Ross's PKD-2 model and made them for a brief time, but unfortunately he continued to sell them without making them Shocked. So yes it is kind of faux pas to call any of the guns an EDC version.


Thanks, point taken. Here is an overall shot from the auction listing and a link to the rest; I'll let you tell me what I have. (If there's a preferred way to share, I'm all ears.)



http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Max_Deployment/BR%20Blaster/

I was outbid on this but was offered a second chance (maybe the winning bidder looked at the pictures and backed out). I know nothing about this gun (origin, history, etc.) other than what was in the auction listing, which was not much. (I'll provide the link or text if you like.) I figured I could rework the lower portion (and learn something about resin modeling in the process) and have a decent blaster to ogle and caress lovingly. It appears to have been fairly well put together originally, but I cannot imagine what happened to the frame and buttplate.

I've taken a few pictures since I started the repair/refurb; I suppose I can turn this into a build thread. My original plan was just to clean up the grips and frame and be done with it, but I'm seeing all sorts of (minor? heh) mods I want to do, like setting nuts into the frame to hold the grip screws. (All the screws were screwed straight into the resin and many of the holes are now stripped.) I bought a hex bolt of the proper size to replace the slot head screw at the front of the ammo magazine, and I want to add the screws that are missing from the front- and backstraps. I draw the line at the Weaver knob, though. Smile

The grip panels had an ersatz wood burl painted on the undersides, but I removed the paint and then used the leftover parts from my headlight restoration kit to buff them out. Worked great! The silver parts look to have been foiled somehow--that or the paint is very flexible.

The buttplate is asymmetrical in terms of where the bottom of the grips sit (that is, it's uneven) and I built up the low side to make them match, but now the left grip sits too high and doesn't line up with the finger grooves (which are slanted--is that intentional?). So I've decided (against my better judgment) to cut the buttplate off, reshape it (should much easier without having to work around the whole gun), and then set nuts into the frame and actually use hex screws to attach it, instead of faking it as was done previously.

The trick here is to avoid my childhood model-building MO (get it built as fast as possible) and really take my time with this to get it right.

What I find interesting about the gun itself is that there are elements that I don't find visually appealing at all, like the shape of the...cover? on the right side behind the bolt lever. But looked at as a whole, the gun totally works for me. Smile

Thanks for your interest and help and knowledge! I welcome any and all comments and build tips.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stuff indeed...would be fun to upgrade the gun with metal parts (Don makes some kick-ass parts on this board)...keep up the good work.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a PKD-1 and not a 2. You can tell most by the larger receiver, and the more pointed finger notches in the grip. EDC only made the PKD-2. The SDC on the gun itself stands for Shimago Dominguez Corp. Usually for the PKD's where the SDC is, it usually says PKD in the first version With a box around it. This looks like a later version before he started making the PKD-2 and he also used the SDC on those first ones of those, before he decided to get away from the movie completely and only put on the Pflager Katsumata engraving on them. It could also possibly be a combined model that was recast from several different Rick Ross PKD guns.

I need to get off my butt and finish the identification guide.

Andy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's excellent news. I'm hopeful it's a legit PKD-1. Maybe this will be helpful: There's a serial number on the plate that holds the triggers in, as well as on the underside of the magazine box (on the gun, not the mag itself). As best as I can make out, it reads PKKP-OCC97. I tried searching for that to ID the gun, but no joy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will look it up for you in my notes when I get home. It is most likely Russian, which Rick took classes in in school. He has a few different hidden codes in there including his birthday, and an ex girlfriends name.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posted additional (not great) images:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Max_Deployment/BR%20Blaster/

My young son broke off the front trigger (twice); getting that repaired and repainted has been a little adventure in itself.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got some work to do for sure, but it could be a very cool blaster to have with some TLC.

I can't believe someone painted the silver parts without taking the amber grips off first. They got silver paint on the grips Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have a front trigger for sale? Rolling Eyes If not, I'll have to expand my resin-casting skills. (Not that that's a bad thing.)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:18 am    Post subject: Some progress Reply with quote

Here's where I am currently:





(More pix in the album.) I didn't really want to take it apart completely, but I've been removing one piece at a time so it might happen eventually. Or not.

Based on its general wonkiness, I have to conclude that this is a recast. That means more work, of course, but also more opportunities for greatness. Smile The end of the Steyr chamber was not perpendicular to the barrel, so I removed the "finned" end cap and am filing the end flat. I want to replace it with a more accurate chamber/firing pin ("probe") setup. If I get really crazy, I can make a mold from my Off World.

The chamber release serves as the switch for the LEDs; I want to install a microswitch on the magazine instead. (Or maybe fake one.)

I cut off the butt plate and am reshaping it. I'm considering buying a metal buttplate for my Off World and using the OW buttplate on the PKD. I built up the bottom of the frame with Bondo.

I filled the big hole in the grip frame and used phase pistol's excellent Tomenosuke blueprints (and RAC's photo of the bare grip frame) to trace the shape of the Bulldog onto the grip, then Dremeled out the holes. I tried "routing" out a channel along the outline of the Bulldog grip, but it looked awful. Ideally I'd like it inset completely, but I have neither the tools nor the talent, so I may just fake it with paint. I'd like to make the top of the frame more like the Hero version. I think the trickiest part of this is going to be getting the grip panels to sit perfectly flush against the frame.

I'm also still rebuilding the front trigger, which I turned into Swiss cheese in a misguided paint stripping incident. (My attempts at molding and casting a new one were abject failures.) I want to add some thickness to both triggers and make the profiles more accurate; I'm still wondering how I can add grooves to the trigger faces.

So there you go. I'm learning a lot--not the least of which is how strong resin is. I didn't expect that. Onward...


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: Some progress Reply with quote

Looking good mate and nice to see your PKD getting some REAL lovin' !

I think its no secret that Rick's version of the blaster is the most beautiful interpretation of this iconic piece of movie history and while not strictly screen accurate, its a marvellous tribute to one of the most gifted Blade Runner artists out there..

A word of caution is that the resin blaster can break at the place where the receiver joins the grip and this is primarily due to the weight of the top part of the blaster putting a lot of strain on the grip. May I suggest that when you pick it up from a lying position you don't pick it up via the grip but rather by the receiver? That way it will stay good and strong for many years.

While not the same model as yours, here is my own treasured Rick Ross PKD ..



Good luck and I'm looking forward to following your progress…

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Some progress Reply with quote

Did you make a blaster that looked like the auctioned hero blaster or is that photoshop???

Staar wrote:
Looking good mate and nice to see your PKD getting some REAL lovin' !

I think its no secret that Rick's version of the blaster is the most beautiful interpretation of this iconic piece of movie history and while not strictly screen accurate, its a marvellous tribute to one of the most gifted Blade Runner artists out there..

A word of caution is that the resin blaster can break at the place where the receiver joins the grip and this is primarily due to the weight of the top part of the blaster putting a lot of strain on the grip. May I suggest that when you pick it up from a lying position you don't pick it up via the grip but rather by the receiver? That way it will stay good and strong for many years.

While not the same model as yours, here is my own treasured Rick Ross PKD ..



Good luck and I'm looking forward to following your progress…

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: Some progress Reply with quote

jameth wrote:
Did you make a blaster that looked like the auctioned hero blaster or is that photoshop???


LOL… no, that's my blaster and here it is again - what you see is what you get...






There is a thread about it around here somewhere.
There is the build in progress thread here if you are interested: http://www.markraats.com/PKD_Build/index.htm
And a gallery here: http://www.markraats.com/PKD_Build/PKD_Gallery_Page01.htm

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's fantastic. Very inspirational!

By the way, can you tell me about your on/off switch? I saw discussion in another thread but the links were dead. I went to my local electronics shop and asked for the smallest two-position slide switch they had, and it was close but not close enough. Is it a dip switch?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Staar for that gun porn (salivating while typing) I certainly can't get enough of your builds Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Staar. Although I've seen your blaster many times it always blows my socks off.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Combaticus wrote:
That's fantastic. Very inspirational!

By the way, can you tell me about your on/off switch? I saw discussion in another thread but the links were dead. I went to my local electronics shop and asked for the smallest two-position slide switch they had, and it was close but not close enough. Is it a dip switch?


My Rick Ross PKD does not have an on-off switch so I can't tell for sure the size you would need.





The Worldcon blaster on-off is the one that came with the SidKit..

Joberg, Gaff87.. cheers mates - always good to know the battered old thing is still liked… Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check garage sales and thrift stores for old calculators and sometimes other electronics toys that will have the smaller switches. It is the only place I have seen ones that are even close.

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