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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TFS Fred; love those comparisons.


Thanks JB !

Talking about comparisons... Hmm... similar looking columns in the Nostromo engines and the "Harkonnen castle" / Ampule room... (these Prometheus columns also remind me of columns seen in LEGEND (Darkness' lair) but since I don't own this one in DVD I'm not able to do screencaps)

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see another influence of Moebius' art in Prometheus, this time taken from one of his late 70's porn illustrations...



I guess the idea was to keep alive the idea of male rape already here in the original A L I E N...

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SKIN JOB 66 wrote:
joberg wrote:

TFS Fred; love those comparisons.


Thanks JB !

Talking about comparisons... Hmm... similar looking columns in the Nostromo engines and the "Harkonnen castle" / Ampule room... (these Prometheus columns also remind me of columns seen in LEGEND (Darkness' lair) but since I don't own this one in DVD I'm not able to do screencaps)

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Stunning likenesses, TFS Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're very welcome BC !

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bingo Fred! ...btw, you had posted before the pic of the room with the columns in LOTR wich is also the same kind of design in "Legend".
And as you said, the "male rape theme" is, once again, used in Prometheus; thank God for the R rating Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks JB !

Another example of "Alien porn" as seen in Prometheus, derivated this time from Moebius and O'Bannon's classic The Long Tomorrow...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



I think this is one of gigers earliest Alien works for the film. White figure with biomechanics and all. I have to wonder if Scott looked at this and decided that was the big guy in the chair, or maybe he as supposed to be this guy all along.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting Noeland...as we can see in the pic he's human but with "Alien" characteristics. While Fred's pic was somewhat simililar, Giger's is more into the spirit and the imagery that was produced before and finally used in Prometheus
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good catch Noeland, must admit I never thought of this one !!!

Shocked

The guy also looks a little like the mummy of king Ramses II... and when you think that a little part of the engineers' esthetic partially came from ancient Egypt art, well...

Again... Well spotted !

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just spotted this today... What was that idiot doing in the field of camera ???
It's not that obvious in the screencaps but play that sequence on your TV and you'll see... The guy is moving during the shot, you even see the light reflect on his glasses !!!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe he thought he was hidden by the big seat if the foreground Confused
Never saw that one Fred...now in HD, everything is so sharp that you'll discover stuff that wasn't there in the regular format.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely riiiight, JB !



I was listening to a program devoted to philosophy the other day on France Culture (the name tells it all) radio station and they talked about Blade Runner at a certain point...

One of the guys established a link between Rick Deckard and René Descartes during the conversation, saying that Ford's character name was a kind of american translation of the french philosopher's name... I must admit I was a little shocked because I had never thought of it, but now it seems so obvious !

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For those who don't know a thing about Philosopher René "I think, therefore I am" Descartes, it's here :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/René_Descartes

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, well, well; talk about surprise here Fred Shocked I don't know who came up with the name (Hampton?) but it all make sense now: the Replicants have acquired consciousness think they are humans; very interesting indeed Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Priss' own words...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The screenwriter was pretty adamant that Deckard was NOT a replicant,if I recall corrrectly.I seriously hate the idea that Deckard is a replicant.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Fred for that one also (I had forgotten about that line)...yes, conscienceness, what is reality, etc. BR is touching on a lot of philosophical subjects for sure Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The name Rick Deckard comes from Phil Dick's original novel. He had put a lot of thought into it, obviously.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jens2133 wrote:
The name Rick Deckard comes from Phil Dick's original novel.


Should have done more homework... Very cool anyhow, thanks for sharing the info !

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:36 am    Post subject: Nostromo and Sulaco Reply with quote

Didn't want to read this whole thread to see if this was mentioned yet: That Nostromo and Sulaco appear in the Joseph Conrad novel "Nostromo." Cool

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One of the greatest political novels in any language, Nostromo reenacts the establishment of modern capitalism in a remote South American province locked between the Andes and the Pacific. In the harbor town of Sulaco, a vivid cast of characters is caught up in a civil war to decide whether its fabulously wealthy silver mine, funded by American money but owned by a third-generation English immigrant, can be preserved from the hands of venal politicians.


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Conrad set his novel in the mining town of Sulaco, an imaginary port in the occidental region of the imaginary country of Costaguana. The book has more fully developed characters than any other of his novels, but two characters dominate the narrative: Señor Gould and the eponymous anti-hero, the "incorruptible" Nostromo.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Banzai88...looks like a lot of writers are being influenced by what they read in the past
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