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phase pistol Community Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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The LED at the front of the sight rod DOES look suspiciously clean... but perhaps they just removed the debris that was down in there.
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andy Community Guide
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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DeckB26354 wrote: | WoW great photos! Where did you get them from Eltree?
Well, Andy you were right it does clear the ammo housing! But I can take some consolation bt thinking that it did bind a little and it's worn all the paint off! |
If only I could tell you the hours I argued with Rich Coyle over the phone about this. He was 100% convinced about it being his way.
Now the other question is if the cylinder could have also been held in with a screw from the other side or not as Doc3d had suggested? Not sure if the 1/8" of pin was enough to hold in the cylinder when firing blanks even.
Eltee, thank you again for sharing these photos.
Andy |
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eltee Community Member
Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 437 Location: West Coast USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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I threw this pic together at med rez. Hope it helps.
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Noeland Community Guide
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Eltee, I'm starting to get jealous of your access!!
Andy, the cylinder should be held in place while shooting with a pin from the rear. The ejector rod wouldn't be holding it in.
I'll have to check my diagrams to be sure. _________________ I don't have enough blasters! |
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andy Community Guide
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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From those pics it actually looks like the sight rod is actually part of the cylinder cover . I take it this gun is in your possession right now?
Andy |
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Noeland Community Guide
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it does. Good eyes. Gotta be bolted together form inside the side panel though.
Ya think?
Is that . . . blended into the cross hatching there?
Some kind of adhesive, weld stuff? _________________ I don't have enough blasters! |
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phase pistol Community Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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So did this thing ever have lights in the grip, or what?
Let's put all those old stories to bed at once. |
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kurtyboy Community Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Aha! So my theory of it being cobbled together and recast might not be so outlandish after all? It does look like it has been added to the side plate and then a casting made of the whole assembly.
Noeland wrote: | Yeah, it does. Good eyes. Gotta be bolted together form inside the side panel though.
Ya think?
Is that . . . blended into the cross hatching there?
Some kind of adhesive, weld stuff? |
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Mr Webber Community Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Karl or eltee, how heavy in the hand is the original and which model replica comes the closest to the feel of the hero?
Not important but would still like to know. _________________ Formerly offworld66 |
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phase pistol Community Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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The prop is very heavy. No replica I am aware of comes close.
Coyle's metal blaster that I have is, heavy I suppose, but nowhere near as heavy as the prop.
Another issue is the grip, which is VERY big and fills your hand. Most replicas have stingy narrow grips by comparison.
I have not held the Sidkit or Tomenosuke replicas, so I can't be sure of those however. |
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Mr Webber Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Karl,
Heres a clipping from todays local paper.......
_________________ Formerly offworld66 |
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spinner 44 Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:56 am Post subject: |
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DeckB26354 wrote: | Hi Spinner
No problem, my pleasure!
I think you may be right about that. Any chance of posting some examples of the stills you are talking about?
However, I belive that the Pris shooting scene is much later on (which is where my other B&W photo comes from) and where the gun had picked up a lot of that dust and general gunk on the grips etc. Just look at the state of Deckard's coat in that shot!
I think PIH are being pretty secretive about their changes to the blaster, re the laser pointer and don't want to show everyone what they have done to the cut wire on the left side. |
Sorry for taking sooo long. I've been changing internet providers, painting my apt...
Here are the pics
THis one belongs to a early scene of Deckard in his apt. The buttplate is flat grey (due to light reflection) but the true color should be flat balck.
This one belongs to the last scene in the film. Deckard (all beaten up) returns to his apt to look for Rachel. Butt plat is again flat black.
The logical way to explain a non scratched buttplate would be that these scenes where filmed first. After all, it makes perfect sense (production-wise) that once you start using a particular set, you film all the scenes that take place place there and then move to another set.
I have some other stills form different scenes and sets in the movie. The only one that does not show clear scratches besides the one in the apt are the still taken when Deckard is going upstairs the Bradbury. In all other scenes (Zhora's chase, Priss and Batty's chase you can clearly spot the scratches, so I guess those were filmed later in production. |
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Alex T. Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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I dunno if someone posted this before, I haven't managed to read all the posts but.... could it be possible there was more than one movie prop? Apart for the obvious alterations (those white wires seem to be just too new to me..), there are some subtle differences in the rust spots.. dunno, maybe it's just speculation, but considering the prices we're talking about...
Cheers
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DeckB26354 Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Spinner 44, great pics. I see what you mean, and it makes perfect sense.
So why is Eltree being so illusive about these photos he has? How does he have access the the Hero?
Also, from the picture of the back LED, this one clearly hasn't been replaced. The round "frame" to the LED is exactly the same as Karls pics, and what with the bottom Red non-working LED not being replaced I would suggest that the front Green LED hasn't been either. They have removed the junk as they did on the grips.
I can't see any evidence of rust removal or work on any of the metal. Does anyone else see any evidence of this? |
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clutch Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:35 am Post subject: |
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I'm just glad he's showing anything at all. We don't know what kind of restrictions he is under. This is an item worth a boatload of money that they haven't received yet. |
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Noeland Community Guide
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | So why is Eltree being so illusive about these photos he has? How does he have access the the Hero? |
With all due respect, that's his own business.
Appreciation is what should be expressed here. _________________ I don't have enough blasters! |
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andy Community Guide
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Just for the record, his name is Eltee (no R), as in 'L' and 'T', and he has promised to show more as soon as he can. He is obviously in a position of responsibility and can not jeopardize that.
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phase pistol Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Well I certainly would like to thank Eltee, for his generosity in posting what he can, and I look forward to more in the future!
As to IDing the Profiles piece as the hero prop, it does look to me that the Profiles piece is the same one I examined at Worldcon in 2006, at least based on the available photos at this time.
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Well let me start by saying how much I truly appreciate the photos he has posted; fantastic!
But I should say that I feel I have completely missed something here!
I am not familiar with who he is or what "position of responsiblilty" he holds, so if I have spoken out of turn at all then I apologise. |
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DeckB26354 Community Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: |
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LOVE that B&W holstered pic of Deckard, Spinner. I know I've already said it, but it really is a cool shot. Thanks again. I love the way you can see that they have cleaned out some, but not all of the junk from the small socket screw at the back of the reciver and also from around the back of the grip.
Have you noticed that both the front groves have that bumpiness in them that we thought might be some sort of lettering a couple of years ago? Now that I see that the top grove has roughly the same patternation as the side one I have a theory; I think the drill that they used to hollow out the rod got very close to coming through at that point and has made those marks in both grooves. If you look at the size of the opening at the front for the LED and them the depth of the grooves, it's bloody close! I must be wafer thin at that point. What do you think?
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